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Nej, der er noget der er glippet der, Bo brokker sig også ofte over at jeg har "ødelagt" hende

Ja, han er en kæmpe, og Luna kan vist ikke få sig selv til at tro at det er den samme hund hun mødte da hun var 3-4 måneder, og var større end ham :blink:

Vi er jo et par stykker herindefra som går til træning sammen om tirsdagen, og i går aftalte vi at mødes en time før træning og lade hundene hygge sig imens vi fik kaffe og kage Så her har I Sokie (FOX), Misja (KarinaG), Møffe (Bernerazuro) og Luna [media] [/media]

Der er vist lavet en bog om emnet, jeg skal lige se om jeg kan få Rikke til at skrive hvad den hedder, hun har nemlig min dvd hvor bogen bliver nævnt.

Det er to dage, lørdag og søndag

Seminar med Kathy Sdao, Ken Ramirez og Michele Pouliot (Roskilde) Program Lørdag 14. august 0900-1010: Ken Ramirez: Concept Training There are many advanced tasks that we ask and expect of our animals. Most of these tasks require a set of basic skills and some very similar approaches. Ken will cover the basics of all types of concept training and touch briefly on modifier cues, matching to sample, mimicry, and adduction. This seminar will be an overview of the broad topic of concept training. 1030-1140: Michele Pouliot: Clean Training ("Cure the Lure") Training for competition requires conditioning a dog to work well without food rewards. Although a performance may only last 3 to 10 minutes, working without motivators can be very challenging for most dogs. Does your dog work just fine for you while you have food or toys, then either lessens enthusiasm or quits working when you don`t have them? Using lures to initially motivate the dog and train new behaviors is common and very effective. The ongoing use of lures will create roadblocks to reaching performance level responses without those lures. Food and toy rewards are only effective in developing competitive performance routines when handled in specific ways during training. Michele will present "clean training" techniques that ensure intentional lures are effective tools and will prevent unintentional lures from hindering performing without motivators. 1200-1310: Kathy Sdao: The consequence of mixing consequences: Reinforcers and punishers don’t mix We tend to view certain events and stimuli as reinforcers for dogs, while judging other events and stimuli as punishers. Beyond this, we tend to assume that these reinforcing or punishing qualities are immutable, inherent in the nature of the event. But actually it is relatively easy to change the affective meaning of events, and trainers often do this inadvertently. This means that their supposed reinforcers (e.g., food) can be perceived by the animal as punishing. In a similar way, supposed punishers (e.g., leash corrections) can be changed into actual reinforcers. We’ll explore how this happens and how to prevent it. 1310-1400: FROKOST 1400-1510: Ken Ramirez: Recipe for Becoming a Top Trainer As trainers we take classes and read books and learn about many concepts. But how does a trainer put it all together? There are many recipes for mixing training concepts into a cohesive program. Ken has organized and established many training programs and teaches many trainers how to be trainers. This seminar will focus on Ken`s recipe for teaching new trainers and putting all the skills together. This is only one "recipe" but should help the attendee look at the logic and method behind Ken`s successful approach. 1530-1640: Michele Pouliot: The Leash - The forgotten tool The ability to use the leash and light lines as communication tools in training many behaviors is a great asset. In the modern world of dog training, most dogs are trained off leash. Michele trains a dog to yield to collar and body cues in order to use these as additional communication tools. Once a dog knows how to yield to collar and body cues, many behaviors can be easily trained. Michele will present on the benefits of training "leash cue response" training for canine freestyle and many other dog sports. For example, leash cue response provides an easy and quick method of teaching advanced moves such as side passing and pivoting around the handler with the dog facing away. 1700-1810: Kathy Sdao: A critical look at "Nothing in Life is Free" protocols One core concept of modern dog training is that "nothing in life is free" (NILIF). Also referred to as "learning to earn", "benign boot camp", "deference protocols" or "leadership training", it requires the dog to perform a behavior requested by the owner before obtaining anything the dog wants. This view borrows from traditional, dominance-based dog training paradigms. It is infinitely more humane than methods relying on physical force and control, but still invokes ideas of human supremacy, rank and deprivation. While many of the actual behavior-modification techniques recommended to owners based on NILIF protocols may be appropriate and effective, this particular explanation, or "back story", may be unnecessary. Søndag 15. august 0900-1010: Kathy Sdao: So many choices - for trainers and for dogs Dog training is an activity designed to elicit, modify and control the behaviors of dogs. It requires cognitive skill as well as physical skill and it obliges trainers to make seemingly endless choices about methods, tools and priorities. From the initial choice of how to "get" the desired dog-behavior to occur, to later decisions about how to integrate the learned behavior into the dog’s daily repertoire, the trainer must consider practicality, expediency and the dog’s emotional welfare. Our dogs, too, make behavioral choices continuously throughout the day. Ideally, trainers focus their efforts on influencing the dogs’ likelihood of making “correct" choices, based on the preferences of the owners. 1030-1140: Michele Pouliot: Platform Training Platforms are a very beneficial tool in training dogs for a variety of behaviors. Animals naturally enjoy platforms and they enable the handler to easily mold specific behaviors. Initially, Michele used platforms to train a few specific behaviors. In the past 3 years, she has continued to expand her use of platforms as training tools and continues to find new ways to use platforms for dozens of behaviors. Foundation positions around the handler can be trained with great precision and many behaviors can advance to performance at distance very quickly. In freestyle, platforms can also serve as effective props that help create entertaining routines. Learn how to use platforms effectively so that they will become a training tool you won’t want to be without. 1200-1310: Ken Ramirez: Problem Solving Ken has been a training consultant for the majority of his career. Most consulting jobs require a quick approach to solving a behavioral problem. In nearly ever problem case, Ken implements a flow chart or problem solving matrix that assists in finding the solution to any problem. Ken will share this series of questions and this sure-fire technique of solving any behavioral problem 1310-1400: FROKOST 1400-1510: Kathy Sdao: What’s that I Fear? Fear both creates and complicates behavior problems in dogs. Resolution of these problems requires that the consultant understand the basic tenets of desensitization, classical counter-conditioning and differential-reinforcement techniques. We’ll review the scientific terminology, compare operant- & classical-conditioning approaches & list some practical tips. 1530-1640: Michele Pouliot: Training Litters of Puppies In 2008, Michele clicker trained a litter of puppies, starting at 4 weeks of age. Once a week each puppy had a brief 5 minute session. The results were amazing, so in 2009 Michele repeated the process with a litter she was raising herself. Learn the process and the results of clicker training these 2 litters to nose target and work on platforms from 4 weeks to 8 weeks of age. 1700-1810: Ken Ramirez: Evolution of the Zoo Trainer: A Personal Perspective As a training professional, Ken`s journey began in the 1970’s. Through the course of his career he has worked with guide dogs, marine mammals, birds of prey, primates, big cats, and eventually went full circle back to dogs. The trajectory of his career has followed and mirrored the changes taking place in the world of professional training. Ken will use his personal experiences to describe the unique changes he has witnessed in the training profession. This presentation will focus on several of the highlights including husbandry training, remote training, chaining, unique animal applications and much more. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Er der andre end mig der skal med på dette seminar?

Han er simpelthen så god af sig Hun er stadig på samme måde, og er meget underdanig i selve mødet, og du kan også se på videoen at hun gør meget ud af sine dæmpende signaler, og i det hele taget gør alt for at undgå konflikt. Men jo mere jeg kigger på hende, jo mere er jeg blevet enig med mig selv om at hun ikke er bange, hun gør bare utroligt meget ud af at sikre sig at der ikke opstår en konflikt, og det er vel egentlig ok Møffe er god af sig, jeg tror bare at han skulle insistere på at blive stående, så ville hun ikke kunne rokke ham ud af stedet Og ja, det er selvfølgelig rigtig, de mødtes som bitte små, men jeg nægter at tro at Luna ved at den der kæmpe er den samme som den lille uldbold hun mødte som hvalp, den gang var hun jo større end ham, og det kan man vist næppe sige hun er mere Måske har Rikke stadig videoen fra dengang, det kunne da være sjovt at sammenligne de to videoer

Møffe forsøgte længe at få Luna til at lege trækkeleg med sig, og selvom hun godt turde løbe efter ham, så turde hun altså ikke gribe fat i torvet, det er jo første gang hun møder Møffe og han er jo kæmpestor Men efter lang tids overtalelse, så blev Luna endelig overbevist om at han ikke var farlig, og hun tog imod opfordringen Og Møffe viste sig som en ren gentleman, han lod hende trække rundt med ham og han lod hende vinde [media] [/media]

Jeg fulgte rådene i denne tråd: http://www.hunde-forum.dk/debat/16105-forstaerkere-eller-mere-populaert-belonning.html Legede mange gange hver dag, men i meget korte sessioner og sørgede altid for at stoppe når hun var allermest tændt. Hun vandt hver evig eneste gang hvis hun bare trak lidt. Så vejen frem for os var, ofte men lidt

Luna har heller ikke ville trække med mig (eller andre) siden hun var hvalp, så jeg har brugt den sidste måneds tid på at lære hende at lege, og man må jo sige at det er gået over al forventning Vi har så ikke lært så meget selvkontrol endnu, fordi at jeg fik at vide at får ikke igen at fratage hende lysten igen, så måtte jeg ikke sætte så mange grænser før hun var 110% tændt på at lege.

Ok, måske er hun ikke nær så slem, og jeg plejer også kun at bruge én arm når vi leger Og jo, jeg så godt at du trak hende ind til dig og gav hende et kys på næsen

Han ser ud til at have nydt sådan at have stranden og hans moar for sig selv

Så hun var lige klar til at fortælle de to børn, at nu kunne de altså godt opfører sig ordentlig Hun var så sød da hun sad der og skældte ud, fordi at nu blev det altså for voldsomt, og tænk nu hvis nogen kom tilskade, kan I så stoppe!

Tak Og ja, hun kan virkelig gå til den, og jeg elsker det når hun gør det Da jeg skulle lære hende at lege fik jeg at vide at jeg skulle huske kun at lave "lange seje træk", hvordan i alverden gør man det med sådan en som Luna, hun har jo altså ikke tænkt sig at stå stille så længe, så umiddelbart gør jeg bare som Rikke, holder fast...

Det er med vilje, jeg ville gerne vise hvor lang tid Møffe (den tålmodige sjæl) brugte på at lokke hende før det endelig lykkedes

Det må du altså huske at filme, det ville været årets griner

Stakkels Sophus :ae: Jeg kan søreme da godt forstå han døjer med varmen, det må ikke være sjovt at være syg i det her vejr :ae:

Hvor sødt Men jeg forestiller mig ikke at han har særlig stor succes med det

Fantastisk billede :klap:

Hvis Møffe havde haft den samme iver som Luna, så tror jeg Rikke var blevet trukket midt over

Vi var mere end én speaker, men jeg tror nok at jeg må erkende at jeg står for det meste, og næste gang tror jeg at jeg sletter lyden